Trump Administration To End Obamacare Subsidies For The Poor

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Trump Administration To End Obamacare Subsidies For The Poor

Post by scrutney » October 13th, 2017, 7:27 am

from national public radio:
The Trump administration said Thursday that it would end the Affordable Care Act's cost-sharing reduction payments designed to help low-income Americans get health care. Not paying the subsidies, health care experts have warned, could send the health insurance exchanges into turmoil.

The payments, which started under the Obama administration, had been continued by President Trump, despite his strong opposition to the ACA. But the subsidies had never been funded by Congress, and the White House on Thursday said since there was no appropriation for it, "the Government cannot lawfully make the cost-sharing reduction payments."

"The bailout of insurance companies through these unlawful payments is yet another example of how the previous administration abused taxpayer dollars and skirted the law to prop up a broken system," the White House said in a statement. "Congress needs to repeal and replace the disastrous Obamacare law and provide real relief to the American people."
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Re: Trump Administration To End Obamacare Subsidies For The Poor

Post by auntmartymoo » October 13th, 2017, 9:46 am

So glad NPR actually mentioned that the subsidies were not funded by Congress...

They should send a memo to Nancy Pelosi



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Re: Trump Administration To End Obamacare Subsidies For The Poor

Post by bieramar » October 14th, 2017, 8:21 pm

The subsidies were paid from the U.S. Treasury, with the dollars in the Treasury having come from U.S. taxpayers, and from foreign and domestic investors why buy U.S. Debt.

The phrase "not funded by" only reflects that the Trump administration has not found a specific line item expenditure authorization in a Funding Bill passed by Congress.

I don't understand your Pelosi remark.



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Post by auntmartymoo » October 14th, 2017, 9:46 pm

Just taking a stab at Pelosi (because she's an idiot and) for her "sabotage" rhetoric regarding Trump ending subsidies.

Maybe if she'd read the Obamacare bill before passing it... <snark>



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Re: Trump Administration To End Obamacare Subsidies For The Poor

Post by bieramar » October 14th, 2017, 11:57 pm

That I can understand - Pelosi epitomizes the political chicanery and powermongering that fatally infects both Parties.



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Re: Trump Administration To End Obamacare Subsidies For The Poor

Post by bieramar » October 15th, 2017, 12:20 am

I note the subsidies cut is grounded in this Decision, which is still under Appeal. The House of Representatives sued HHS a couple years ago, claiming that Congress had not funded the subsidies. Judge Collier agreed with the House, but Stayed the cut.
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The Court will grant summary judgment to the House of Representatives and enter judgment in its favor. The Court will also enjoin any further reimbursements under Section 1402 until a valid appropriation is in place. However, the Court will stay its injunction pending any appeal by the parties. A memorializing Order accompanies this Opinion.

Date: May 12, 2016

/s/ ROSEMARY M. COLLYER

United States District Judge

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https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case ... 6271505462

On 7/6/2016 the Appeal was filed.



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Re: Trump Administration To End Obamacare Subsidies For The Poor

Post by bieramar » October 15th, 2017, 9:44 am

Historical note - when it began. Excerpt from February 2, 2013 Letter from the Conservative Action Project:

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Blueprint to Defunding Obamacare

Obamacare’s funding mechanisms are as complicated as the law itself, but they can be stopped through the appropriation process, which includes the upcoming continuing resolution.

Federally Backed Exchanges. An appropriations rider must eliminate the refundable tax credits for premiums and the cost sharing subsidies that are essentially used to support insurance purchased in the Obamacare exchanges, which starts January 1, 2014....

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Edwin Meese III
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Re: Trump Administration To End Obamacare Subsidies For The Poor

Post by bieramar » October 15th, 2017, 9:45 am

IF the payments are in fact stopped — many States' Attorney Generals are filing suit to continue Judge Collier's Order/Stay until the Appeal is over, probably at the Supreme Court — the results will be 1) fewer lower income people with health insurance, and 2) higher insurance premiums for everyone else.

The two main health insurance industry trade groups, America’s Health Insurance Plans and the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association, issued a joint statement calling the payments “critical” and saying “there will be real consequences” to ending them - insurance choices will shrink, costs will rise, and the marketplaces will become unstable.

The mechanics are:
- Open Season is from November 1 to December 15 this year.
- All insurance companies that sign the federal contract to sell their 2018 health plans have to publish their monthly rates and covered services. The contract requires that all companies provide discounts on deductibles and other out-of-pocket expenses for those 7 million Americans with low incomes - with the ACA federal Cost Sharing Reduction (CSR) payments reimbursing the insurance companies.
- Industry-wide the loss of $9 billion dollars of subsidies next year means that monthly premiums would have go up to insure profits for the companies and their investors.
- So insurance companies have three choices in the next two weeks; a) cancel their federal contracts to sell health plans for 2018; b) raise premium rates; and/or c) absorb the $9 billion from profits/investors.



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