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Vagrants after hours

Posted: September 27th, 2017, 7:55 pm
by mike
Police make drug-related arrest in Plaza Market
September 22, 2017 Public Safety

https://historiccity.com/2017/staugusti ... rket-69805

Bicycle patrol officers with the St Augustine Police Department passed through the Plaza Market this evening about 5:00 p.m. to clear a large group of plaza bums; some of whom were eating from backpacks, others drinking from unlabeled bottles and cups, another was sleeping against a pillar, and all were surrounded with their own trash bag full of clutter.

The occupation of the Plaza and its Market throughout the day by panhandlers, vagrants, and other undesirables, has been a recurring and growing nuisance for residents, tourists, and employees who work in the businesses remaining downtown.

Tonight, officers identified one Vermont Heights man among the assemblage of debris who committed a civil infraction by violating a municipal ordinance, and two drug-related criminal misdemeanors.

Arrested was 46-year-old Joseph Eugene McDade who resides at 4216 New Hampshire Road in Elkton. He was charged with possession of marijuana, possession of drug equipment, and violation of a municipal ordinance.

McDade was taken into custody and transported to the St Johns County Detention Facility without incident. He remains in custody tonight in lieu of $1,200.00 bond.

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Re: Vagrants after hours

Posted: October 3rd, 2017, 12:59 pm
by PucPuggy
Holy mullet.

What in the heck is going on? This looks worse by far than anything I've seen in the past.

Is St. Francis House up and running? Aren't there any agencies that can address this? To use a Dunrobin phrase, "I'm gob-smacked!"

While I am at it, WTF with the lack of maintenance of the market??? THIS is what COSA is happy with and presents to tourists? Keeps as a symbol of our heritage? I am disgusted.

Maybe one of the city commissioners can look past his/her nose and use the special interest money they are allotted to repair the market. BTW, did they cut their little slush funds/PR funds when budgeting occurred? I hope so. We need public records of all the money and how it was spent. I want receipts, too.

I think there may be an Eagle Scout project there. Or perhaps another group will volunteer to preserve the market and repaint.

The lack of respect for our past CONTINUES to barrel at breakneck speed into the 21st century.

Re: Vagrants after hours

Posted: October 3rd, 2017, 1:51 pm
by mike
PucPuggy wrote:
October 3rd, 2017, 12:59 pm
We need public records of all the money and how it was spent.
You've got that now through Citizen Transparency

Re: Vagrants after hours

Posted: October 3rd, 2017, 3:13 pm
by PucPuggy
mike wrote:
October 3rd, 2017, 1:51 pm
PucPuggy wrote:
October 3rd, 2017, 12:59 pm
We need public records of all the money and how it was spent.
You've got that now through Citizen Transparency
Thanks so much for the link! I'll be very interested to see how commissioners have spent "their" dough.

Re: Vagrants after hours

Posted: October 3rd, 2017, 3:25 pm
by PucPuggy
Checked out the link. Wasn't sure which fund, so tried "General Fund," thinking it was general enough to include money for commissioners' special grants for favorite projects.

I found nothing on this, and I checked commissioners by name.

Mike, any idea where these figures could be?

And what's with "Miscellaneous Activities"? No, no, no. "Miscellaneous" not allowed in budget reports. Call it what it IS.

Re: Vagrants after hours

Posted: October 4th, 2017, 1:43 am
by mike
You can search by payee of all checks, even payroll checks
You can search by fund -- as defined in the budget
You can search by expense category -- as defined in the budget
It takes a bit of getting used to. My bride is a.Tyler Technologies expert having trained almost every employee at her city finance department how to use MUNIS.
There is a help link that explains the searches while you're learning the system.

Re: Vagrants after hours

Posted: October 4th, 2017, 7:42 am
by PucPuggy
Great! Thanks yet again! First step is to find out what they are called by the city. I love a mission!

I love the way your link opens to the 450th spending lunacy.

Are you recently married? If so, congratulations! If not, and you still call your wife your bride, that's so sweet!

Re: Vagrants after hours

Posted: October 5th, 2017, 2:13 pm
by mike
Is ten years recent?

Re: Vagrants after hours

Posted: October 5th, 2017, 5:52 pm
by PucPuggy
mike wrote:
October 5th, 2017, 2:13 pm
Is ten years recent?
My perspective: We'll be married 40 years next March, and we're still on our honeymoon.

So, yes!

Re: Vagrants after hours

Posted: October 5th, 2017, 6:31 pm
by scrutney
puc wrote:
...and we're still on our honeymoon.
sweet baby and i have been married twenty two years in august...april... a month with an "a" in it.

we honeymooned at disneyworld...it was an omen.

Re: Vagrants after hours

Posted: October 6th, 2017, 12:01 am
by bieramar
I've been unmarried for the last 37 years.
After being unmarried for my first 36 years.
And then there were those other 10 years.

But I've been traveling with my mate (through life) for 46 years.

Re: Vagrants after hours

Posted: October 6th, 2017, 11:27 am
by PucPuggy
scrutney wrote:
October 5th, 2017, 6:31 pm
puc wrote:
...and we're still on our honeymoon.
sweet baby and i have been married twenty two years in august...april... a month with an "a" in it.

we honeymooned at disneyworld...it was an omen.
"a month with an 'a' in it"LOL! Your honeymoon at Disneyworld was a very good omen!

Re: Vagrants after hours

Posted: October 6th, 2017, 11:29 am
by PucPuggy
bieramar wrote:
October 6th, 2017, 12:01 am
I've been unmarried for the last 37 years.
After being unmarried for my first 36 years.
And then there were those other 10 years.

But I've been traveling with my mate (through life) for 46 years.
Lovely! Mazel tov!

Re: Vagrants after hours

Posted: October 24th, 2017, 8:33 pm
by mike
At last night's commission meeting, at least they paid lip service to the bum problem -- no offense pb.

The city manager actually said it was at "a crisis point". Wow. Somebody piss in John's Wheaties?

City attorney, Isabelle "Mensa" Lopez-Mills, falls back on the panhandling ordinance and the appeals court decision in Tampa this year counseling that "there's nothing we can do" (God, a mind is a terrible thing to waste) when the citizens are complaining of vagrants trespassing, committing acts of vandalism, and indecent exposure -- NOT panhandling.

Every day the St Augustine Police arrest one or two hobos and take them to jail, charged with simple trespass -- $500 bond. But when some corksucker literally camps out on your doorstep, shits in front of your store, or otherwise relieves himself, and they tell you that there is nothing they can do. I need to move into the apartment down there so I can step out onto the balcony and drop water balloons on their asses.

One merchant mentioned to me last week that he understood the city parks workers were going to set the sprinklers to come on from time to time during the day to run them out. That's not unconstitutional is it?